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Friday, January 11, 2013

Wait a sec! Whales bleed red blood! So do dogs & cats... but whales & dolphins are smarter!

Whales Aren't People!



One part is true. Corporations are people

Whales may not be human but that doesn't mean they are not conscious or aware.

About Whales; Strange But True - 1. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/11/061127111607.htm (brain neuron similarity) - 2. Brain size problem http://www.highnorth.no/library/myths/br-si-bo.htm

3. Brain Complexity http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=are-whales-smarter-than-we-are -

4. Evidence of conscious awareness from smaller, less complex brained animals http://animalpetnews.blogspot.com/2011/09/about-bird-intelligence-part-1.html .

In other words, if the evidence is accurate then we should be asking the killer whales if they even want to leave rather than make the decision for them (dangerous oceans out there).

What doesn't kill whales? They can't even sunbathe without dropping dead.     


Are whales able to think and feel?

Note thier brain science... Of Whales and Men by R. Douglas Fields.

Note: Intelligence has to do with the inter-connectivity BETWEEN neurons NOT brain size or surface area. Besides other factors of course. (i.e. Win Wenger .com)

When you cut an animal does it not bleed? How can they not have feelings? Cut yourself. Is your blood the same color as thiers? How can a dumb animal possibly do this? = Elephants Mourn Loss of the Elephant Whisperer

From BBC World News Elephants grieving - BBC wildlife.


Can Dolphins & Killer Whales Have A Language?


How to Understand the Dolphin Language
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It's a very simple procedure, really, ready for you to try out for yourself, to see what you find with it! We've gotten the results we have with it as you see below. You are more than welcome to try the procedure yourself and get your own remarkable results. There is a lot of room for you to discover much more about dolphins — or about any other species — than we already have, or to challenge our own findings after you have experimented with our little procedure.

Active skepticism (not closed, passive, impenetrable, reflexive skepticism) is the most productive way to be. Automatic reflexive belief and automatic reflexive disbelief are equally unproductive. Check things out for yourself; don't just assume they are as we say, or assume that they cannot be and that's that.

That willingness to test is what has moved science and technology way ahead of other areas of human activity. And in this instance, testing our little "Borrowed Genius" procedure (and checking our own results) will also open for you immense windows and vistas not otherwise available to you. (So have fun!.....)

This "Borrowed Genius" procedure is actually thousands of years old, and it helped our ancestors to survive.

The Bear Clan would experience putting on the heads and persona of bears, to better understand the wilderness from which they had to make a living. So also did the Eagle Clan, the Deer Clan and so many other tribal units clear around the world, because that, in fact, did help them survive.

Athletes have put on the heads and persona of other great athletes, to pick up insights on how to compete more effectively. NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming) has made enormous headway by "stealing behaviors" (modeling on someone else's patterns, which closely compares with "Borrowed Genius").

"Borrowed Genius" is now being used as a very highly effective technique for accelerated learning in any subject. You can find a completely detailed free script of specific steps and laboratory protocol for the Borrowed Geniusprocedure on this website. You will most likely find it quite easy to follow those specific steps of direction and perform the procedure, to get whatever results await you.

A variety of "animal whisperer" techniques now exist for obtaining understandings from horses, dogs, cats and other animals. Some practitioners believe this to be true telepathy, and perhaps it is.

The more science-minded among us point to recent discoveries about "mirror neurons" which we humans, uniquely among land animals at least, are richly endowed with, which allow us to anticipate and model after the behaviors of others. With these neurons, we humans build internal models of the actions and feelings of others, with astonishingly detailed accuracy.
Whether that is sufficient to account for the truly remarkable specific accuracies obtainable from these various "animal whisperer" techniques and from "Borrowed Genius," however, may be questioned — a debate that can be settled only when more researchers seriously investigate it.

Until such research is finally done, though, we have a very powerful way to investigate and learn from the other main intelligent species with whom we share this planet, notably whales and dolphins. We know they are intelligent, both from their actions and from their enormous brains. We know they have complex and meaningful languages, but for long decades we've been utterly frustrated because we haven't even begun to figure out how to decipher and understand these languages.

There is a very good reason why we, until now, haven't been able to understand dolphinese and cetacean. See that reason below. A very simple half-hour investigation by yours truly, using the "Borrowed Genius" procedure, gave us the key. You are strongly encouraged to make your own investigation, both to check our results and to find your own keys to understanding dolphins, whales and other animals.

By publishing this article we hope to make contact with other researchers who either are, or could be encouraged into, investigating and decoding dolphin language, especially with the aid of the Borrowed Genius procedure posted here.

Please relay our findings below to the attention of anyone you know who is involved with dolphins or with dolphin language. Please also take a look for yourself at our results on the dolphin language question, as follows:




Why We Have Not Understood the Dolphin Language
Here is a prediction — that formal investigators will eventually find that the dolphin language uses only internal states of feeling and being as its referent. No nouns. Sometimes as modulated by circumstance, but always the internal state as the central issue.
All human languages use external sensory referents — rock, table, person, lemon [nouns] — together with their descriptors [adjectives], interrelationships, sequence, actions, etc. We refer only slightly at best to the modulation of such referents by our subjective internal states, to the extent that we often fool ourselves into thinking we're talking about something else when we're only talking about ourselves — i.e., "This food tastes lousy!" or "What a stupid piece of music!"For dolphins, to use objects as (external) referents in a language would at best be something of an extreme insult by assuming severe sensory impairment of the dolphin spoken to, and thus his untrustworthiness and danger to the pod or host.

O

What a dolphin says to another dolphin:

I am I! — with this background ancestry and pod/family identity or relationship, my unique flavor as characteristic in that pattern.
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Here's how I feel, generally — and at this moment.


Impression of flavor patterns being like light patterns (in the water and on the bottom) being like sound patterns.Becoming once again a dolphin, going toward a distant island beyond the horizon — only that's my human translation, not how he thinks of it —

(I feel reaction to) a million striations of blue! (Between shore and sea)....
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(Underwater), I react to this flavor and special quality murk for this far (offshore).
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To go with the (current toward the island) because I'm not hungry. (I'd go up-current or cross instead, if hungry.)


Closest human equivalent to experience:  just letting your eye follow a particular thread in a rich tapestry. Tapestry is of the senses; the real referent is my internal state as associated with or in reaction to that thread, rather than the thread itself. "Hungry" is associated with what we'd call upwater or cross-current swimming, and I'm more into what is the pattern of motion in swimming than I am into experience of any other referent in that context.
O

This writer concludes from this experience:
Humans and dolphins need each other's language and thought tools. We humans tend not to know who we really are, and are prone to anomie. We dolphins need to concretize referents in order to build other things in addition to social relationships and music and the art-sense of freely towering depths.

O

Comments to
Win Wenger






Dolphin Information


Killer Whales (Orcas), Killer Whale Pictures, Killer Whale Facts - National Geographic
Learn all you wanted to know about killer whales with pictures, videos, photos, facts, and news from National Geographic.
Whistles with Dolphins: Scientific American
Trailblazing our knowledge of aquatic minds, Diana Reiss uses science to fight for dolphin welfare.
BBC - Wildlife Finder - Peale's dolphin (video, facts and news)
Peale's dolphins are a little-known species that inhabit the waters around the southern tip of South America. They live in small family units of 3-8.
BBC - Wildlife Finder - Common bottlenose dolphin (video, facts and news)
Common bottlenose dolphins are widespread, active and very acrobatic. They are extremely sociable and sometimes hunt their prey (fish, squid and shrimp) in teams.
Does Military Sonar Kill Marine Wildlife?: Scientific American
The frequency used in military testing could be harmful to some animals
News Blog: Are Whales Smarter Than We Are?
Cetacean brains, such as those of dolphins (left) and humpback whales (right), have even more cortical convolutions and surface area than human brains do. Does that mean they're smarter?
Figure from " Cetaceans Have Complex Brains for Complex Cognition
Dolphin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
More Dolphin Info.
Killer Whales Trapped Under Canadian Sea Ice Free Themselves
The killer whales trapped under ice near a remote Quebec village reached safety after the floes shifted on Hudson Bay, according to the mayor's office in Inukjuak.





Information On Whales


News Blog: Are Whales Smarter Than We Are?
Cetacean brains, such as those of dolphins (left) and humpback whales (right), have even more cortical convolutions and surface area than human brains do. Does that mean they're smarter?
Figure from " Cetaceans Have Complex Brains for Complex Cogn
Captive Beluga Whale Imitated Human Voices: Scientific American
The mimicry of the whale, now deceased, was no match for that of a parrot, but is an example of vocal learning, nonetheless
Elephant in South Korean zoo imitates human speech - Yahoo! News
[Animals don't have vocal chords. But they do bleed. Thier blood is red. Wasn't this argument used for black people just 50 years ago? Related Rant: ]
Most Whale Deaths in Past 40 Years Were Caused by Humans: Scientific American
Protection measures seem to have had no impact on whale deaths, according to a new study that reinforces the need for science-based approaches to reducing large-whale mortality
Whale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
General information about whales on Wikipedia.
Whale Wars: Whale Kill : Video : Animal Planet
WARNING: You are about to view graphic raw footage from Whale Wars: Season 2 showing a minke whale being harpooned and shot by Japanese whalers.
Whale : Facts, Pictures, Video : Animal Planet
Meet the whale! View pictures, watch video, read facts, explore interactives and more.

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